No MUX-8, what antenna to buy for MUX reception - 1,2,3,8 and L3 on 2 tv. 2 flat

Good day.

I have an antenna "UHF TV antenna 11 elements Dipol 11 / 21-60 DVB-T UHF Code of goods: A1112" and I intend to modernize the installation. That is, buy one VHF antenna together with UHF, which will be mounted on the balcony, which will receive MUX - 1, 2, 3, 8, L3. Separate antennas, VHF and UHF are out of the question?
When cars pass by the balcony, the TV is distorted at this time. I do not answer MUX - 8 as of today.
I live on the 1st floor, where the balcony is on the street side and there is a tenement house behind the street.
27 Bardowskiego Street Częstochowa

Installation diagram is.
On the balcony for now there is an antenna on UHF, where the antenna splitter for two TVs comes out. The distance to the second room is about 5-7 meters.

Installation scheme
http://gg017.c0.pl/ints.pdf

Geographical photo of the apartment
http://gg017.c0.pl/intsz.pdf

My question 1.
What components are needed to receive MUX - 1,2,3,8 and L3 for two TVs?

My question 2.
Which antenna should I buy for MUX reception - 1,2,3,8 and L3 for two TV sets, will an amplifier be needed, if so which one?

Thank you for your answer.

Moderated By Olek II:

I changed the content to a more understandable one.

On the balcony on the 1st floor? I am asking you ... Buy a simple grid with an amplifier. At least you won't get too wet if it doesn't work.

And where do you want to receive, channels, polarization, distance? Should I check it for you?

The transmitter Węczyca Wielka is about 20 km away but the reception location is very poor.
Not enough that the 1st floor, a tenement / two-story house on the road, are still large trees on both sides of the street. I see reception in this area on the directional antenna (s) in black. It will be very difficult to hit the beam of reflections. I propose an antenna with a wide field of view capable of capturing / collecting signals from scattering.
It can be a grid or any of the asr family but not IQ. It would be good to measure the reception capacity in this location (balcony).

With MUX3 and MUX NTL you should not have problems because you have a stone's throw to Błeszno and you should receive on the wire.
It is worse with Klepaczka because probably if you do not take the antenna to the roof it will be a problem with stable reception (it covers the tenement house).
In turn, if you take the directional to the roof, you will have k.41 in the "double" line - Błeszno (lighting) and Klepaczka.
Do you have cables well shielded? Amplifier in antenna?
As for the elements needed, none of the coffee grounds can tell what will be needed.

Good morning
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The antenna has a balun and the antenna cable is TRISET-113 coaxial cable 1.13 / 4.8 / 6.8 class A 75 Ohm [1m] Product code: E1015_1 dipol.com.pl

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That should probably do the trick
- Receiving channels 6 - 12; 21 - 69
- Energy gain without amplifier 11.5 dB - 13 dB
- Horizontal angular visibility of 46 °
- 27 ° vertical angular visibility

The mesh can cope despite the complexity of difficult conditions because it also has a wide "view" angle and collects signals from reflections well, but I don't know if VHF will also be visible vertically. Similarly, our asr. Either way, you can't do without trying.
If the author arranges a trial purchase from the seller and the possibility of returning and exchanging it for another model, it will be ok.

Good morning
Thank you for your answer
What are the antennas that LeDy user gave.
I know that the first antenna is a grid, but what, while the second antenna is what.

Is the other antenna provided by the LeDy user any of these antennas given in the link:
https://davbol.pl/
http://davbol.com/mag/13-anteny-kierunkowe


If it is one of the antennas listed below, it would be good, and that the antenna would additionally be able to receive FM DAB + radio
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http://davbol.com/mag/anteny-pasywne/70-antena-ttv-midi-s-combo-h-3el-v.html
TTV MIDI S Combo H + 3el V antenna
Index: A107S3V
Directional DVB-T TTV Midi S Combo H + 3elm V Antenna
Receiving range: TV: UHF VHF Radio: FM DAB +

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http://davbol.com/mag/anteny-pasywne/54-antena-ttv-midi-s-combo-hv.html
TTV MIDI S Combo H + V antenna
Index: A107SV
Directional DVB-T TTV Midi S Combo M8 H + V antenna
Reception range: UHF + VHF vertical

It's difficult to get this antenna in V - vertical polarization.
Does anyone know where you can buy such antennas in V - vertical polarization at a reasonable price?


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A colleague must try with different antennas or make a measurement on the spot (balcony) and choose the right one. The location is highly unfavorable and you can't do it without it. Nobody will state 100% whether this and other antenna without checking or measuring. ... and I would rather not lean towards directional antennas because it will complicate the selection even more - it is difficult to find signals from reflections.

This retina is TV antenna set with DIPOL 3dx MUX-8 Vertical polarization Very interesting but I haven't had it yet. Even more interesting is this one
These Davbol antennas are probably just the manufacturer for now. They show themselves aledrogo. Certainly the competition does not allow because they look really solid and with a head.

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My question is what device is to be measured. I am asking for advice on choosing good cheap equipment. what parameters to measure, when choosing antennas I definitely suspect dBuV, signal quality ....

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It depends whether we want to buy a meter or "indicator" and what it means cheap equipment. Measuring devices are not cheap and if it is to be purchased only for a one-time test, I advise against. It will be cheaper to get along with the installer who has one. Either invite or borrow him.
Of course, it always remains to check the individual types of antennas in turn, if of course there are such possibilities.

Jcom2013 wrote:

My question is what device is to be measured.

Neon +, Rover Master, Digiar PRO etc. but these are not cheap things.

Jcom2013 wrote:

what parameters to measure

MER and PreBER. The level in dBuV is last. In your case, when the signal will be reflected, the echo measurement may be important .......

We are a representative of the Rover company: https://www.telmor.pl/Katalog-produktow/Mierniki-SAT-DVB-T-CATV
but it is specialized high-end equipment, more for installers dealing with the installation and commissioning of small and large RTV / SAT installations. Prices, depending on the model, fluctuate within a good and large TV set.
But even if we think about something definitely cheaper, it is about PLN 800-1000. there is nothing to the cost of the antenna itself, even the more expensive ones.

Jcom2013 wrote:

Thank you for your answer
My question is what device is to be measured.

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What you have or TV, decoder. You are interested in strength and quality. Strength does not have to be 100% and quality as close as possible to 100% and that's all. If you were to buy a meter, it is better to hire someone who has one.

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The meter would be for single use to my sister's apartment and to me

If so, then the purchase does not make any sense. Please consult your local installer regarding the measurement or rental of the meter, ... or contact the seller in order to be able to buy the antenna and, after checking its usefulness, replace it with another type.

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Perhaps I will do so

I sent a request to the antenna installer in the city of Częstochowa for the price of measurements.
The company wrote back to me that it was taking PLN 50 for measurements
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