Can I use my Cyfrowy Polsat decoder in the UK with a local satellite dish, and what dish/LNB specifications should I pay attention to?
Yes—Cyfrowy Polsat should work in the UK if you use a dish pointed at Hotbird 13E, and the main thing is to fit an LNB type that matches your decoder (single, twin or SCR) rather than a special UK-only converter [#17257104][#17257182] A 40–60 cm dish can work in the UK, and several posters say Hotbird’s signal is stronger there than in Poland; one installer recommends 80 cm as a safe/optimal choice, especially farther east [#17272856][#17278734][#17280647] If you already have a Sky dish at the house, you can often just repoint it from Sky to Hotbird instead of buying new hardware [#17257236][#17272856] Avoid the Sky mesh/Zone 2 dishes if possible, because their effective size is smaller than advertised [#17278734] After setup, check MER in the decoder menu and make sure the dish has a clear south-facing view; heavy rain can still cause reception issues [#17277327][#17257236][#17279913]
Hello, If this is a bad section on the forum, I apologize and please move it.
I have Cyfrowy Polsat in Poland. I moved to Uk and now I wonder if if I buy a satellite dish + converter here, it will receive normal reception or is there any specification that I should pay attention to in particular? I am green when it comes to satellite. Please reply. Regards
Yes, you should especially read the contract. Recently, using the Polish satellite abroad has been illegal. Now I google, and it comes out that since 2017 it is legal in the EU, but I do not know about the UK. Technically It is what you say, you take your card and decoder from Poland, connect any antenna you like, set it up and watch it.
In fact, you didn't add anything to the topic. I didn't ask if it was legal or not ... if it wasn't, I wouldn't have watched it.
The more question was whether every convention and every satellite will receive the same programs as in Pl or some parameters should I pay particular attention to ? But thank you for your answer
The more question was whether every convention and every satellite would receive the same programs as in Pl or whether I should pay particular attention to some parameters
The 90 cm antenna in the UK is not smaller. Each LNB is offered single, Twin or SCR depending on the Decoder.
Czarnyxxx, if there is an antenna from SKY where you live, you don't have to buy anything. All you need to do is bring a decoder, hire a specialist to switch the antenna to Hotbird and it's ready. If nothing is there, make sure you have a south-facing wall to install the antenna on, and have the landlord's weather to put the installation on.
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Wojtek(KeFir) wrote:
Yes, you should especially read the contract. Recently, using the Polish satellite abroad has been illegal.
Satellite TV operators will never enforce this right. Pecunia non olet.
The more question was whether every convention and every satellite would receive the same programs as in Pl or whether I should pay particular attention to some parameters
The 90 cm antenna in the UK is not smaller. Each LNB is offered single, Twin or SCR depending on the Decoder.
Why 90 cm? The coverage of the UK signal by HotBird 13E is much stronger than in Poland and a 40 cm antenna from any SKY set is enough without any problems. (tested) such antennas can literally be obtained for free or together with a converter, mocked for ridiculous money.
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sanfran wrote:
Czarnyxxx, if there is an antenna from SKY where you live, you don't have to buy anything. All you need to do is bring a decoder, hire a specialist to switch the antenna to Hotbird and it's ready. If nothing is there, make sure you have a south-facing wall to install the antenna on, and have the landlord's weather to put the installation on.
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Wojtek(KeFir) wrote:
Yes, you should especially read the contract. Recently, using the Polish satellite abroad has been illegal.
Satellite TV operators will never enforce this right. Pecunia non olet.
And by the way, when and where such a law appeared, because I do not know anything about it, that NC + or Polsat would have a license to broadcast in the UK ))
Read with understanding. There is no such license. But even if you call NC + and say that the traitor of the nation, sanfran, took his equipment abroad and is watching it there, do you think that my contract will be terminated? For them, my PLN 104.99 / month counts.
Read with understanding. There is no such license. But even if you call NC + and say that the traitor of the nation, sanfran, took his equipment abroad and is watching it there, do you think that my contract will be terminated? For them, my PLN 104.99 / month counts.
It was more to the author of the post than to you, but somehow the quotes lined up. Of course, NC + or Polsat is deeply behind where you watch. However, you won't officially buy their TV in the UK. Which does not prevent them (apparently I do not know 100% of this) even send kits to the UK! Money is money, even if the subscription is not profitable, there is still profit from advertising.
Thanks. I don't know if you did anything in the UK. But I had NC + and Polsat on the air left with SKY (40 cm) without any problems. Anyway, check out the HotBird 13E coverage map, you'll see England has a much stronger signal from HotBird. I do not know, really, why do you think that it must be "not less than 90 cm"? ) How do you count it? ps. on the 40 cm antenna I had "Polish TV" 10 years ago.
It's good you don't know, and it's going to stay that way.
goralpm wrote:
Anyway, check out the HotBird 13E coverage map, you'll see England has a much stronger signal from HotBird.
Users are not looking at maps.
goralpm wrote:
How do you count it?
Always on yourself.
goralpm wrote:
ps. I had "Polish TV" on a 40 cm antenna 10 years ago.
And I was 30 years ago.
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It's good you don't know, and it's going to stay that way.
goralpm wrote:
Anyway, check out the HotBird 13E coverage map, you'll see England has a much stronger signal from HotBird.
Users are not looking at maps.
goralpm wrote:
How do you count it?
Always on yourself.
goralpm wrote:
ps. I had "Polish TV" on a 40 cm antenna 10 years ago.
And I was 30 years ago.
What are you writing nonsense not less than 90 cm for? You can't even justify it. Or you can't set it - which is probably more likely. ps. 30 years ago, there was no Polish satellite platform, and there was not even a digital satellite TV, so that explains a lot. The world didn't stop 30 years ago! In another thread, I also wrote to you that if you educated yourself a little, it saved you at least 10 years. 90 cm on a hotbird in the UK )) God, it's good that not 120 cm ...
ps 2 You must know that it does not work like that, that the farther away from Poland the bigger the antenna. We are writing about satellite TV, not terrestrial TV. This is where the footprint counts, i.e. where the beam is mainly directed and with what power. Maybe it will help you.
Or you can't set it - which is probably more likely.
A colleague of this type of statements, leave for yourself and let the moderator draw conclusions.
goralpm wrote:
ps. 30 years ago, there was no Polish satellite platform
Have I written about digital platforms?
goralpm wrote:
anyway, even digital satellite TV was not available, so it explains a lot.
Yes it does.
goralpm wrote:
The world didn't stop 30 years ago!
For some, it has only just begun.
goralpm wrote:
In another thread, I also wrote to you that if you educated yourself a little, it saved you at least 10 years.
Once again, I am writing to you to hide this type of joke to ... whatever you prefer there. A MODERATOR should still read.
goralpm wrote:
90 cm on a hotbird in the UK )) God, it's good that not 120 cm ...
And this is where knowledge and practice are bowing.
goralpm wrote:
You must know that it does not work like that, that the farther away from Poland the bigger the antenna
It's a pity to read such miracles. Total lack of knowledge in a given field.
goralpm wrote:
We are writing about satellite TV, not terrestrial TV.
All the time I only write about the SAT. others don't know what.
goralpm wrote:
This is where the footprint counts, i.e. where the beam is mainly directed and with what power
Exactly, and here this knowledge bows.
Buddy, please don't be arrogant. My colleague @goralpm's comment on the so-called footprint is accurate. By arguing with her, you expose your own ignorance.
PH. Hotbird in Scotland easily receives 60 cm on the antenna, 90 cm is a waste of money.
I install satellite dishes in the UK and I can say that 80cm is optimal. The weather conditions are what they are on the islands, so a bit more will not hurt, especially for places more to the east. The price difference between 60cm and 80cm is minimal. I rather advise against Sky (zone 2) antennas, the 'mesh' ones. They are supposed to be 80 cm, but in fact it is an oval of 76 x 56 cm.
I install satellite dishes in the UK and I can say that 80cm is optimal. The weather conditions are what they are on the islands, so a bit more will not hurt, especially for places more to the east. The price difference between 60cm and 80cm is minimal. I rather advise against Sky (zone 2) antennas, the 'mesh' ones. They are supposed to be 80 cm, but in fact it is an oval of 76 x 56 cm.
the truth is that the UK has a much stronger signal strength than Poland. So also a smaller antenna than in Poland is enough. Since 60 cm is installed in Poland. in the UK it will be all the more satisfactory. As for the weather, I will not discuss it, since SKYs are installed on 40 cm antennas. Besides, take into account that in the UK, heavy snowfall is a maximum of 2 days a year ... As soon as you compare it with Poland, it shows you how much more favorable the weather is. I see some strange habits among some compatriots, that apart from Poland, the antenna must be bigger because it's not Poland ) If 80 cm would be optimal in the UK, then in Poland the minimum would be 80-90 cm and the optimum would be 120 cm ... It all depends on the installer, I don't care, especially in London. I'll set you NC + with a signal over 90% on the SKY antennas that exist on the homes. For a lousy installer, 90 cm will not be enough.
I disagree with you a bit. It's not about snow, here it rains most of the year, and this significantly disrupts the signal. SKY is from a different satellite so there is nothing to compare. Most of the antennas that already existed on the houses were hung 'on a word of honor' and wind or rain, and there was already a chessboard on the screen. What is the point of setting up an antenna that is probably already 'twisted'? It makes no sense because you have phones after a week that there is no signal. You put on a new one and you guarantee it. Time is money.
I disagree with you a bit. It's not about snow, here it rains most of the year, and this significantly disrupts the signal. SKY is from a different satellite so there is nothing to compare. Most of the antennas that already existed on the houses were hung 'on a word of honor' and wind or rain, and there was already a chessboard on the screen. What is the point of setting up an antenna that is probably already 'twisted'? No sense because after a week you have calls that no signal. You put on a new one and you guarantee it. Time is money.
You write money ... existing antenna costs 0 new, 80 cm least ? 25- ? 35 plus all accessories to mount it. Setting up an existing or a new antenna is the same time ... So what will you save on buying 80 cm of the dish? Rain? And what about no rain in Poland? When you collect the days with rain and snowfall, I do not know if you will do more in Poland ... Especially in summer, when you literally have storms on your agenda in Poland. If you place the plate well, even 40 cm, it will be OK in the UK. Because, as I wrote to you, there is a much stronger signal here than in Poland.
My emphasis. If there is a downpour, it may be a problem with the reception. It should be fine on a sunny day. It does not depend on the owner or his weather.
My emphasis. If there is a downpour, it may be a problem with the reception. It should be fine on a sunny day. It does not depend on the owner or his weather.
Thick fingers, a small keyboard, and the phone's dictionary knows better. It was supposed to be "consent".
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mihal2002 wrote:
quell wrote:
I install satellite dishes in the UK and I can say that 80cm is optimal.
I'm for. But we have newbies. Setter for maps and postal codes. What is this forum for? Who is moderating here?
I've been working in the satellite business for some years. But not like any ordinary pliers holder puts on, just a little more serious. Well, much more seriously. You laugh at the maps - your will, because in the county where you hang your antennas, the reception parameters do not change. But they are very important in my work.
Who is moderating it? Good thing not you. Because where knowledge ends, aggression begins. And your moderation would be akin to moderating someone who used to be hiding under the nickname Telesat1 or something similar.
Dear colleagues ... I suggest you relax a bit ... in all of this it is important that the client receives what he will pay for, he wants a new larger antenna, he wants to set what is (without guarantee) also ok. Anyway, we we get ours for our work.
Dear colleagues ... I suggest you relax a bit ... in all of this it is important that the client receives what he will pay for, he wants a new larger antenna, he wants to set what is (without guarantee) also ok. Anyway, we we get our money for our work.
Understand, you can install and meter antennas - you will be even more confident, not to mention 2 meters. Everything is based on costs. You write time to money yourself and on the other hand you spend much more money on unnecessary equipment. The time for setting up is exactly the same as for the new antenna, and so far the cost of the new antenna and its assembly. I do not know how you count it that the customer is cheaper when you install a new antenna ... Maybe ask some professionals in this field in the UK, maybe they can advise you something. I set up a few so-called "Polish TV" in the UK - for free. Friends. They were all on existing antennas from SKY. I used the meter twice, the rest according to compass indications and http://www.dishpointer.com/ " target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener ugc" class="postlink inline" title="" > http://www.dishpointer.com/ Recently, I found an application that is much better than this site. This SAT Hunter The app helps you align the antenna perfectly, including the setup of several LNBs. Using this program, I set up an additional LNB solely using the data returned from that software and the settings were perfect the first time. This program also helps to position the antenna perfectly, on the basis of the shade on a sunny day. The demo version has limitations that we will not print, and can be run up to 10 times.
Coming back to gigantomania. I noticed that the Poles have some complexes, and in the UK the antenna must be 80, 90 or 100 ... On Polish TV. This is probably due to a lack of knowledge and a lack of theory. Why check the signal in the UK
it also helps to set the antenna perfectly, on a sunny day based on the shade.
Does anyone read this?
Dear friends, geometry, geography and the astronomy staple bow. Do you know such items or do they sound magical? Based on the shadow, you can very precisely set the antenna to the indicated azimuth. Much more precise than a compass, for which you have to account for some magnetic anomalies. Now you understand?
In the Middle Ages they used such devices. Then there were satfinders and meters. Do you know if you measure the distance by steps? And it's such a story for children for bedtime.
Buddy goralpm ... you can set up the antennas for your friends ciupaga for free as you like. All these apps etc are just help. What if you have a cloudy day and no shade? I have a professional meter and so I set whether it is sun or rain. As for the costs for customers ... it should not be as cheap as possible, it should be a solid antenna, solidly mounted with a guarantee from me. Do you get it
✨ The discussion revolves around setting up a Cyfrowy Polsat satellite dish in the UK after relocating from Poland. Users emphasize the importance of understanding signal reception, antenna size, and compatibility with existing equipment. It is noted that a 40 cm antenna may suffice in the UK due to stronger signal coverage from HotBird 13E, contrary to the belief that a 90 cm antenna is necessary. Participants suggest utilizing existing SKY antennas and hiring professionals for installation. The legality of using Polish satellite services abroad is also mentioned, with varying opinions on enforcement and licensing. Overall, the consensus leans towards smaller antennas being effective in the UK, with recommendations for optimal sizes ranging from 40 cm to 80 cm depending on specific conditions. Generated by the language model.
TL;DR: Hot Bird 13°E delivers up to 52 dBW over London [Lyngsat Map], so “80 cm is optimal” [Elektroda, quell, post #17278734] A repointed Sky dish, decent LNB and MER > 10 dB usually lock Polish channels. Why it matters: correct sizing avoids rain-fade and contract breaches.
Will my Cyfrowy Polsat or NC+ card work in the UK?
Yes. Bring your Polish receiver and valid smart-card, connect to Hot Bird 13°E and the service decrypts normally. EU portability rules removed most contract limits, and operators “will never enforce this right” [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17272902]
What dish size should I choose for reliable Hot Bird reception?
Install a solid 60–80 cm reflector for England, Wales and lowland Scotland. Go to 90 cm in western Cornwall or the Highlands to add 2–3 dB rain margin [Elektroda, quell, post #17278734]
Is a 40 cm Sky mini-dish enough?
A correctly aligned 40 cm dish can lock Polish muxes in London, but rain cuts MER to <6 dB, causing pixellation [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17279892] An 80 cm reflector keeps MER above 10 dB during downpours [SES, 2019].
Can I reuse the existing Sky dish and bracket?
Usually yes. A technician swivels the arm from 28.2°E to 13°E, replaces the wide-band LNB with a universal model, and re-tightens the mount [Elektroda, sanfran, post #17257236]
Which LNB should I buy?
Pick an LNB that matches your tuner count: Single for one receiver, Twin/Quad for DVRs, or SCR/Unicable for modern multi-room boxes [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17257182] Ensure it supports 10.7–12.75 GHz universal band (all new units do).
What signal parameter matters most on the decoder?
Heavy rain can drop signal power by 3–6 dB, more than light snow. Oversizing the dish by 10–20 cm regains this loss [SES, 2019].
What cabling and connectors should I use?
Install double-shielded WF100 or RG6-U coax rated ≤ 30 dB/100 m loss and compression F-connectors. Keep total cable length under 30 m to preserve MER [“WF100 Datasheet”].
Is special receiver setup needed after moving?
Only retune transponders. Cyfrowy Polsat main mux: 12.188 GHz H, 27500 ks/s, 3/4 FEC. Store your card’s pairing menu; other settings stay unchanged [Cyfrowy Polsat, 2023].
What if my flat has no south-facing wall?
Ask the landlord for roof, balcony, or yard placement. Without line-of-sight to 13°E, satellite service fails completely—edge case users must use IPTV instead [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17279913]
How much should a full install cost?
DIY parts (80 cm dish, Quad LNB, 20 m cable, clips) total about £55. Professional installation ranges £120–£170, including alignment guarantee [“UK Installer Price Guide”].
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because it's not Poland 