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Seeking 4-Burner 230V Induction Hob with 3.6 KW Power, Preferably Bosch or Electrolux

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  • #1 17097722
    siudziu
    Level 27  
    Hello, I am looking for a 4-burner induction hob 230V with a maximum power of 3.6 KW. So there in the apartment there is a problem with pulling 2 phases to the induction hob, therefore I am looking for something for 230V dedicated to 230V or one with a maximum power of 3.6 KW, when it comes to the company I prefer Bosch or Electrolux but I will consider other companies (except Amica) oi most importantly, I would like it to be a plate similar to Solgaz SI-4T, which detects by itself where the pot is and there are no pre-designated fields. Difficult subject due to the problem of missing phase 2, but maybe such an album does exist :P Who is not looking, will not find it.
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  • #2 17097852
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    I don't really understand what the problem is? After all, the above-mentioned companies have an offer of boards with the possibility of powering from one phase.
  • #3 17097892
    siudziu
    Level 27  
    So much so that in this case it is impossible to use the full power of all burners, in a word, it will not start the power boost on 4 burners, such situations are rare, but I would prefer to avoid such situations. I have already checked the connection of 2-phase plates on one phase and unfortunately it does not work the best. If someone thought of connecting 7.4 KW plates to 230 V, I strongly advise against such ideas, unless you use a maximum of 2 burners and the plate has a separate connection I would play the cable.
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  • #5 17097988
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    You can apply for an increase in the power allocation, but the installation will definitely be replaced.
  • #6 17098009
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    @ slavy2 did you read what the author wrote?
    siudziu wrote:
    So there is a problem in the apartment with pulling 2 phases to the induction hob, therefore I am looking for something 230V dedicated to 230V
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  • #7 17099718
    Damaran
    Level 11  
    And I would like to ask what it is like to connect the induction. In the new apartment in the kitchen, I have a 3-phase circuit (if I understand correctly), do I have any extra options for connecting selected induction models? I would like to limit myself to the amount of PLN 2,000-2500, but also maximize the possibilities of the kitchen. Do I use multiple burners at once? Occasionally 4 will hit, but usually it's 1-2 for most of the year.
  • #8 17101718
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    If you have 3 phases, you give two to the plate and the third to the oven, and then you have the full potential of the equipment at your disposal.
  • #9 17219507
    Barthezz1976
    Level 19  
    siudziu wrote:
    So much so that in this case it is impossible to use the full power of all burners, in a word, it will not start the power boost on 4 burners, such situations are rare, but I would prefer to avoid such situations. I have already checked the connection of 2-phase plates on one phase and unfortunately it does not work the best. If someone thought of connecting 7.4 KW plates to 230 V, I strongly advise against such ideas, unless you use a maximum of 2 burners and the plate has a separate connection on the wire.


    I recommend a wattmeter or a meter and check your typical energy usage when cooking. The field at full power (without a booster) reaches a power of about 1.2-1.5 kW, and with such power everything will be cooked in the moment. You can easily conclude that cooking with 2 pots at full power we have about 2.5kW (and by cooking on one of the sides where the power is divided, we will probably reach 2kW) and by cooking on 4 fields at medium power (level 4-5) we will achieve about 600 -700 watts, which is a typical cooking power - in total it will be well below 3kW, i.e.
  • #10 17220161
    ps2505
    Level 1  
    A 4-burner single-phase induction hob with 3.6 KW is unlikely to be found for two burners, but you have the option of limiting the power of almost every hob in the menu.
    The given power of the plate is the sum of the power of all fields, usually the largest is 2.3-2.5KW with an average power of 3.6KW
    For an example board, you have the following: 2300, 1800, 1400, 1800 with power 3600, 2800, 2500, 2800 W, respectively
    The housing conditions are tough and don't take the risk of skipping it.
    The standard of the apartment on one phase gives you a max of 16A which gives 16Ax230V = 3.6KW
    In one phase they can give you a maximum of 25A (hard to achieve) which will be 5.7 KW
    Limiting the power will cause that 1 burner will work at full power when you turn on the next power of the sum, they will be limited to the value you set in the menu.

    And no plugs, only a surface-mounted or flush-mounted junction box, and the installation is 100% efficient with a cross-section of 2.5 mm2.

    A 4-bay plate is typically 7.2-7.4KW, you need 3 phases to use it.

    Everyone, of course, uses the plate differently, my practice shows that, for example, when boiling water for tea or noodles, you use max power, with ordinary cooking also often start max later, 0.5-0.8 power, it also depends on how many fields you use at once.
  • #11 17268311
    PBK
    Home appliances specialist
    90% of the induction is incorrectly fitted by carpenters
    Nobody reads the instructions on how to properly install it so that it breathes well, and this is very important
    There is no need to spend a lot of money on new equipment
    Amica pi6512 is enough for PLN 999
  • #12 17268372
    Barthezz1976
    Level 19  
    PBK wrote:
    90% of the induction is incorrectly fitted by carpenters
    Nobody reads the instructions on how to properly install it so that it breathes well, and this is very important
    There is no need to spend a lot of money on new equipment
    Amica pi6512 is enough for PLN 999

    You just gave a model based on 1 transistor with a power of 30A, heats in pulses and has one processor that controls the transistor, no driver. And a troublesome panel with sponges instead of springs and the famous error er22.
    I am surprised that today, with so much awareness, someone still chooses the cheapest equipment.
  • #13 17268545
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    Ps 2505.
    After the last intervention, I am a supporter of plugins, of course the right ones.
    Imagine the PE short circuit and phase and one differential per flat.
  • #14 17269209
    PBK
    Home appliances specialist
    michalprezes1 wrote:
    PBK wrote:
    90% of the induction is incorrectly fitted by carpenters
    Nobody reads the instructions on how to properly install it so that it breathes well, and this is very important
    There is no need to spend a lot of money on new equipment
    Amica pi6512 is enough for PLN 999

    You just gave a model based on 1 transistor with a power of 30A, heats in pulses and has one processor that controls the transistor, no driver. And a troublesome panel with sponges instead of springs and the famous error er22.
    I am surprised that today, with so much awareness, someone still chooses the cheapest equipment.

    and besides, it is long-lived
    and the above faults are easy to repair and not very annoying
    besides, the lower case is made of metal
  • #15 17269359
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    Zbigniew 400 wrote:
    After the last intervention, I am a supporter of plugins, of course the right ones.
    Imagine the PE short circuit and phase and one differential per flat.

    What's the problem? The induction should be on its own (separate) circuit breaker. You leave the "s-k" and the CD is disconnected.
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  • #16 17269758
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    If I were to do this installation, it would be. But it is done in such a way that after a short circuit, you have to remove the plug to turn on the power.
  • #17 17269820
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    So it is done contrary to the regulations. The contractor simply ran out of technical knowledge. Here's the problem. Not connected. Let us finish the side plot here.
  • #18 17270078
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    After all, it's the designer's fault.
    How many times have you seen one difference in the whole house.
    And in Lidl there is one 3-phase differential for the parking lot powered by 1/3 lamps from each phase. Failure of one lamp crashes the power supply of the entire parking lot. Where is the designer and his intelligence?
  • #19 17271346
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    The regulations allow for one difference for the whole house. The price works wonders.
  • #20 17281868
    Barthezz1976
    Level 19  
    PBK wrote:
    michalprezes1 wrote:
    PBK wrote:
    90% of the induction is incorrectly fitted by carpenters
    Nobody reads the instructions on how to properly install it so that it breathes well, and this is very important
    There is no need to spend a lot of money on new equipment
    Amica pi6512 is enough for PLN 999

    You just gave a model based on 1 transistor with a power of 30A, heats in pulses and has one processor that controls the transistor, no driver. And a troublesome panel with sponges instead of springs and the famous error er22.
    I am surprised that today, with so much awareness, someone still chooses the cheapest equipment.

    and besides, it is long-lived
    and the above faults are easy to repair and not very annoying
    besides, the lower case is made of metal


    If it is easy to repair, I would argue. I have a few pieces where there is an EA error and the hell it is not going to do it. Another one does not respond to commands at all (processor without short circuit), and the mass of other modules, where the processor went (short circuit). It is definitely not as reliable as mastercook or candy.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the search for a 4-burner induction hob that operates on 230V with a maximum power of 3.6 KW, specifically from brands like Bosch or Electrolux. The user highlights the challenge of connecting such a hob due to the limitation of using a single phase in their apartment. Responses indicate that while some induction hobs can operate on one phase, they may not utilize full power across all burners simultaneously. Suggestions include considering models that allow power limitation settings and ensuring proper installation to avoid issues. The conversation also touches on the importance of correct electrical connections and the potential for upgrading power allocation in the apartment.
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FAQ

TL;DR: On single‑phase 230 V, 16 A = 3.6 kW; "limit the power in the menu." Four zones will power‑share, so no all‑burner boost. Consider upping supply or using 3‑phase for full output and safer wiring. [Elektroda, ps2505, post #17220161]

Why it matters: For apartment dwellers and renovators limited to 230 V, this FAQ explains realistic performance, safe hookup, and model expectations.

Quick Facts

Can I get a 4‑burner hob that runs fully on 230 V/3.6 kW?

Not for full simultaneous output. Typical four‑zone hobs are 7.2–7.4 kW. Single‑phase 16 A supplies only 3.6 kW. Many models let you set a power limit in the menu. That keeps the total within your circuit capacity. Expect power sharing across zones when several burners are active. “A 4-burner single-phase induction hob with 3.6 KW is unlikely to be found.” [Elektroda, ps2505, post #17220161]

What happens if I connect a 7.4 kW hob to one phase?

You will not get full performance. Boost on all four zones will not engage. The hob will limit or cycle power between zones. The author warns against this setup on 230 V. He notes it is workable only with two burners. Ensure a proper separate wired connection. Avoid ad‑hoc one‑phase hookups on two‑phase rated plates. [Elektroda, siudziu, post #17097892]

Will power‑boost work on all four zones on single‑phase?

No. With a 3.6 kW cap, the hob blocks or shares boost across zones. You can boost one zone, but enabling more zones reduces each zone’s power. Expect slowdowns when three or four zones run together. This is the trade‑off of single‑phase operation. It “will not start the power boost on 4 burners.” [Elektroda, siudziu, post #17097892]

How much power does everyday cooking actually draw?

Typical full power on one field is 1.2–1.5 kW without boost. Two pots at full power draw about 2.5 kW combined. Four fields at medium (level 4–5) use roughly 600–700 W each. Total draw stays well under 3 kW. For most daily cooking, a 3.6 kW limit works fine. These figures come from wattmeter checks. [Elektroda, Barthezz1976, post #17219507]

I have 3‑phase in the kitchen—what’s the best way to connect things?

Use two phases for the hob and the third for the oven. That gives the hob higher available power and keeps the oven independent. You unlock full performance from both appliances. “If you have 3 phases, you give two to the plate and the third to the oven.” [Elektroda, Szyszkownik Kilkujadek, post #17101718]

Can I apply to increase my power allocation or add phases later?

Yes. You can request a higher allocation from your utility. Be ready for installation changes or replacement to meet requirements. This enables higher current or multi‑phase service for full hob performance. “You can apply for an increase in the power allocation, but the installation will definitely be replaced.” [Elektroda, niewolno2, post #17097988]

How do power limiters in the hob menu actually work?

They set a global cap for the hob. One burner can run at full power. When you enable additional zones, the hob reduces or cycles power to stay within the set limit. This protects your breaker and wiring. “Limiting the power will cause that 1 burner will work at full power… the sum will be limited to the value you set.” [Elektroda, ps2505, post #17220161]

Should I hardwire the hob without a plug?

For fixed installation, many recommend a junction box and 2.5 mm² conductors. Avoid plug connections for high continuous loads. Set the power limit to match the circuit rating. A 4‑zone hob is typically 7.2–7.4 kW, so plan wiring accordingly. This keeps connections solid and heat low during long cooks. [Elektroda, ps2505, post #17220161]

Is using a heavy‑duty plug ever acceptable?

Some installers prefer a robust plug for quick disconnection. The reason is practical. A PE‑to‑phase fault with a single RCD for the flat can trip everything. A plug lets you isolate the hob fast after a trip. This is installation‑dependent, not a universal rule. [Elektroda, Zbigniew 400, post #17268545]

Does the hob need its own breaker or RCD?

Yes, give the hob a dedicated circuit breaker. That way other loads stay up if the hob trips. “The induction should be on its own (separate) circuit breaker.” This improves selectivity and safety. Share an RCD only when your design and code allow. [Elektroda, Szyszkownik Kilkujadek, post #17269359]

How important is correct installation and ventilation?

Critical. Poor installation causes overheating and power throttling. One technician notes many units are installed wrong by furniture fitters. Always follow ventilation clearances in the manual. Proper airflow prevents thermal limits and nuisance shutdowns. You may not need premium gear if the basics are correct. [Elektroda, PBK, post #17268311]

Are budget models like Amica PI6512 good enough?

They work, but there are trade‑offs and known issues. A contributor cites a single 30 A transistor stage, pulse heating, and basic control. The touch panel uses sponges and can throw ER22 errors. These reflect cost‑cut design choices. Mid‑tier models tend to be more robust. [Elektroda, Barthezz1976, post #17268372]

What do ER22 or EA errors indicate on some hobs?

They point to faults that can be difficult to repair. One repairer saw units with persistent EA errors and unresponsive controls. In several cases, the main processor failed. He judged those units less reliable than some older brands. Diagnose thoroughly before replacing parts. [Elektroda, Barthezz1976, post #17281868]

Can Bosch or Electrolux hobs run on a single 230 V phase?

Yes. Contributors confirm these brands offer boards that can be powered from one phase. Check manuals for single‑phase wiring diagrams. Expect power sharing when capped at 3.6 kW. Multi‑phase connections enable full output when available. [Elektroda, Szyszkownik Kilkujadek, post #17097852]

How do I set up a 230 V hob safely? (3 steps)

  1. Hardwire via a junction box with 2.5 mm² conductors on a 16 A circuit.
  2. In the hob menu, set the power limit to 3.6 kW (or 16 A).
  3. Test single and multiple zones to confirm sharing and that the breaker holds. [Elektroda, ps2505, post #17220161]
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